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Post by pecanpraline on Jul 24, 2013 6:11:01 GMT
Since so many male artists have been removed, I decided to look at Nicola's list of possible new male artists. It seems there is an over abundance of female talent. What has happened to the men? I decided to listen to the men on the list and see who appealed to me. I have only begun and already eliminated three of them. I know that later in the year when Nicola's life becomes a bit less time consuming, if that's possible, maybe I will have gone through the entire list and see who I really enjoy listening to the most. Voting for the male artists pales in comparison to the female artists. Since I joined the site in 2010, I have never been quite able to understand it. Yes, there are two male artists in the top ten but in general, the men just do not have the same fan following as the women. I suppose for this reason, they do not pursue the genre. I am a bit confused about the crossover fan's mind set. Can someone give me some opinions on the subject? Thanks!
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Post by inga on Jul 24, 2013 6:47:10 GMT
the men just do not have the same fan following as the women They have fan following but their fans are not are not voting like crazy the whole time. Someone like Josh Groban does not need much help, his fans are more relaxed. Some fans are voting for the same artists since years to help them, so these artists are always in the top ten.
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Post by John on Jul 24, 2013 8:22:58 GMT
I agree with Inga.
Just from those I have seen recently, the likes of Alfie Boe, Russell Watson, Rhydian and Aled Jones have a huge fan following and sing to sellout audiences. Their fans just don't know about (or don't care about) voting on CCUK.
Three years ago, I remember Rhydian and Hayley Westenra vying for first place in the user chart. Rhydian still has his fans - they just don't bother to vote any more.
By contrast, third placed Siobhan Owen clearly has a loyal following amongst CCUK supporters but is not widely known publicly. Her audience numbers were quite low for her UK tour this January.
Voting on CCUK has never been an accurate reflection of an artist's true talent or global popularity.
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Post by inga on Jul 24, 2013 9:14:44 GMT
It is your 500. posting!
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Post by John on Jul 24, 2013 17:13:54 GMT
It is your 500. posting! Thanks Inga - do I get a prize?
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Post by nicola on Jul 25, 2013 5:05:30 GMT
The audience on this site are mainly male, and men rarely follow other men. A large proportion of this site's audience actually come from Jackie's fanbase. When she went on AGT, this is the only place on the internet that had her on it (or, at least, the top result when searched on a search engine). Jackie was the most searched for name one night so it's of little surprise that we have so many Jackie fans. They are a really good fan base and are really open to other artists. They have found plenty of other female artists to follow, as well as Jackie. But it follows they would like artists similar to Jackie - so young, pretty and female. There are only five in the top twenty that do not fit this description (three males, two not "young" by industry standards). Micheal Castaldo fans stick exclusively with him. Mario fans also vote for other male artists (including Amaury) and some female ones. They are also quite open to other artists, in general. Rhydian's fan base were also exclusive, hence he went from top of the chart straight to the bottom once they stopped voting. If they were interested in others, they would have stayed on CCUK. Obviously, I prefer an open fan base, as they are the ones that make the charts collectively worthwhile. Rhyd's fan base were not particularly useful to CCUK's roster, whereas Jackie? I think they are my favourite fan base. It's rare to find such an open fan base and I think they are open because Jackie introduced CC music to them. The genre wasn't known to them before, now they have found a genre of music that they like. I have also come to the conclusion, over the years, that men are more open than women about finding new artists. Women can be quite obsessive about the one artist (so can men, of course, but it's not as often).
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Post by pecanpraline on Jul 26, 2013 10:30:38 GMT
Nicola, thanks for the insight. It all makes sense and I agree with you totally on an open fan base. It is what makes it so much more interesting. Limiting yourself to one artist is really a shame because there is so much talent amongst the other artists.
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